INTERVIEW WITH PROF JAMES CHIN IN 2015

Here is an old discussion from 2015 between Dr James Chin and I. The video has been viralled again since yesterday and I received it from two people. Nine years have gone by since this discussion and 18 years have gone by since I wrote my book Club of Doom, but the subject matter appears still relevant and contemporary. Because despite the passage of time the Islamic societies have not solved their problems. Things are actually getting worse for them.

 

 

Tan Sri IGP Semalam You Mention Jemaah Islamiyah At Least TEN Times. Today Minister Pula Kata Perpetrator Bertindak Bersendirian, Tiada Kaitan Kumpulan Terancang

Here is a video of the IGP from yesterday where he mentions JI (Jemaah Islamiyah) TEN TIMES thus obviously implicating the JI with the attack in Ulu Tiram yesterday. Do listen to the eight minute video.

 

But in a rather surprising announcement today the Minister of Home Affairs says that this attack 'did not have any links to an extremist group as previously stated'. Implying there are no links to the Jemaah Islamiyah.

 

 

Here is the video of the Minister. It is shorter.

 Here is another screen grab :

So what about the young couple who had come into the Police Station at the same time to inquire about making a Police Report (at 2.30 am in the morning) about some meraba case that happened two years before? Police arrested the young couple on suspicion of them being part of the plot.

If this attack was a 'Lone Wolf' case with 'tiada kaitan kumpulan terancang' then is that couple still being detained? They should be released.

Why would a 21 year old boy 'acting alone' aka Lone Wolf style suddenly want to attack and kill Policemen?

The boy killed two Policemen and also shot and injured a third cop. If he had the opportunity it is likely he would have killed all the Policemen at that Police station. He had already grabbed a pistol and a rifle (well that is what I saw in one of the videos) and he shot THREE policemen.  According to the IGP he got into a firefight with TWO OTHER CID cops. 

So the boy did all this all alone by himself. Lone Wolf style. He handled a pistol and a rifle quite well. 

As the stomach churns.

WHO GAVE HAMBALI THE PR? WHO GAVE ABU BAKAR BASYIR HIS PR? Siapa suruh sign? ULU TIRAM A JI PLAYGROUND!! A TICKING TIME BOMB!! VILLAGERS IN DISBELIEF!! WELL I DONT BELIEVE IT.

 

 

 

Ok here is a collection from The Star today. Thank you to The Star for your excellent graphics and for not being kedekut today and allowing access to your full story. 

 

No. 1

 

 

• Extremist groups may be dormant, but never underestimate.  
• ticking time bombs that may explode at any time, say experts.
• threat of violence from extremist groups cannot be understated
• They must be constantly kept under scrutiny and surveillance

• attacker in Ulu Tiram came with parang and not firearms or explosives
• indicates that this may be a random act from a JI member

(OSTB : I really dont think so. If he had a machine gun I am sure he would have brought his machine gun. If he had an M1 Abrams tank I am sure he would have brought his Abrams tank. But maybe on that day the Abrams tank was at the mechanic's shop for servicing. What weapons he came with or did not come with is not relevant. What is scary is he came with the intention to murder people. Which he did, he murdered two innocent people.)

government must address extremism, radicalism to ensure safety and security
attack could have been “copycat” of similar attacks in Indonesia few years ago
“It might have inspired this particular attack” 

(OSTB : Copycat? All this psycho mad behaviour is imported. WHY? The answer is very simple. Because the local people have no brains. 

Jemaah Islamiyah terrorism is imported from Indonesia. WHY? Because the local people are bodoh. They like 'barang impot'.

The Wahabi / Salafi extremism is imported from Saudi Arabia. WHY? Because the local people are bodoh. They like 'barang impot'.

That Indian terrorist mentor is imported from India. Still living here. At one time he was given police outriders.  WHY? Because the local people are bodoh. They like 'barang impot'.

That Arab fellow cakap Terengganu is imported from Tanah Unta. Then he started creating controversy. WHY? Because the local people are bodoh. They like 'barang impot'. 

So the problem is the local people are bodoh. They are easily influenced by all these stupid and satanic 'barang impot'. And the gomen closes one eye. You allow all these stupid and satanic extremists into the country. They can come and go anytime. Ikut suka hati depa. And then when they start killing and murdering our people you buat bodoh pula. Disbelief lah, ticking time bomb lah. How stupid can you get?)

• authorities should step up surveillance on suspected radical groups
• “While some could be seen as dormant, they should never be underestimated
• Authorities have to stop people from being influenced by extremist ideologies”

• suspect’s father was a JI member
• takfiri ideology (excommunicating other Muslims) runs in the family  
• time bomb which exploded 
• important to remain vigilant because ideology is not dead

(OSTB : Oops its too late. Two policemen have now been killed. Two families have been deprived of their loved ones. Please step up the surveillance. Better late than never.)

 

No. 2 Villagers in disbelief over attack 

(OSTB : I dont believe this).

• man who killed two policeman reclusive
• family living away from others
• family house in Jln Rabani, Kg Sungai Tiram fenced off in private area
• 10 other houses in the settlement also display no-entry signs
• located not far from Madrasah Luqmanul Hakim, once the haunt of Jemaah Islamiah 
  

• settlement had been around for more than 20 years 
• all the families there living in seclusion 
• not mingling with other villagers
• shocked killer was in our midst

(OSTB : TEN  other houses in the settlement for over 20 years?  Hello Johor Police? What have you been doing? How can there be TEN other houses belonging to these pro-JI people for the past 20 years? I thought that Madrasatul Luqmanul Hakim was shut down long ago. How can the madrasah still be operating? If what The Star has reported here is true, then what have the Johor Police been doing?)

• assailant had four siblings 
• did not go to school 
• educated by his father 
• who is also a member of Jemaah Islamiah (JI)
• whole family did not receive formal education 
• but are schooled by their father
• possibly (indoctrinated) with extremist teachings

(OSTB : Wow !! Let me make a kuda liar guess. The father had advanced training in Jemaah Islamiyah ideology? Let me make another kuda liar guess - the same father must have taught the four other siblings the same stuff. So now we still have FOUR other siblings walking around breathing this toxic stuff all over Ulu Tiram.

Ulu Tiram village chief said the incident had residents worried

(OSTB : But for 20 years the villagers did not seem to worry. Did anyone make any Police reports over the past 20 years? I dont think so.)

No 3. ULU TIRAM JI PLAYGROUND

 

 

 

• Ulu Tiram familiar place for Jemaah Islamiah (JI) leaders and fighters
• Indons Abu Bakar Bashir, Abdullah Sungkar established Luqmanul Hakim
• in 2015 Abu Bakar jailed 15 years, released in January, 2021.
• JI's Noordin Mohd Top, Asia’s most wanted terrorist, attended madrasah 
• with Mukhlas who was also part of 2002 Bali bombings.
• Noordin 41, was killed by Indonesian security forces on Sept 17, 2009
• Mukhlas executed  in 2008, for Bali bombings
• He too brought religious teachers from Indonesia to Ulu Tiram.
• The Ulu Tiram madrasah was shut down in the early 2000s

• Indon terrorist Hambali met his wife Lee Yin Len at same madrasah
• Hambali, 2 M'sian partners Mohamed Farik Amin, Mohamed Nazir Lep  
• 2 M'sians personally recruited by him for suicide attack in US later aborted
• Hambali key Al-Qaeda leader in South-East Asia
• charges against trio for two terrorist attacks in Indonesia, US citizens killed
• all three still being held in US naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
• classified “high value detainees” and “high-risk threat to US and allies"
• Hambali aka Encep Nurjaman and Riduan Isamuddin, was PR in Malaysia

(OSTB : WhO gave Hambali the PR? WhO gave Abu Bakar Basyir his PR? Siapa suruh sign?)

My Comments :

I have a simple solution for all this religious violence. What we do not want is the violence. Extremism is debateable. There are extremely hardcore Tibetan monks (Buddhist monks) who isolate themselves inside the Buddhist monastery on the mountain tops in Tibet. They isolate themselves for decades and spend all their time in prayer and meditation. Those are hardcore, extremist Buddhist monks. But they do not resort to violence. 

You still have those hardcore Jesuit Christian priests who go and live in the jungles in the Amazon, in Papua New Guinea helping the native peoples who live in the jungles. They are extreme hardcore too. But they are not violent.

 

The problem is the violence. K E G A N A S A N. I want to ask the Muslims - all the Muslims. Why do you have to be so damned violent?

Or why do you tolerate all this VIOLENCE?

For 20 years those Jemaah Islamiyah fellows have been living in their secluded 'settlement' in Ulu Tiram. The village people did not complain.

The other day that moron fellow created so much hatred against that kedai runcit. There were firebombing attacks against that kedai runcit outlets around the country. How many Muslims complained? The non-Muslims were worried and upset. But what did the Muslims do?

That Malay girl was caring for stray dogs or something. There were many Muslims who wanted to take action against her - for taking care of stray dogs?? They wanted her to be arrested and locked up. That is violence. Why are you all so full of hatred and violence? 

That Malay girl was just working in a Chinese owned book shop which happened to sell a book (which had NOT YET been banned at that time). They arrested the Malay girl worker and charged her in court. If guilty she would be jailed. Again VIOLENCE. Use of FORCE or mengguna KEKERASAN. Its the same thing. FORCE = KEKERASAN = VIOLENCE = KEGANASAN.

WHY ARE YOU ALL SO INSANELY MAD ABOUT USING FORCE (KEKERASAN) AND VIOLENCE (KEGANASAN) TO ENFORCE RELIGION?

Whether it is Jemaah Islamiyah or the gomen (pemerintah) VIOLENCE IS VIOLENCE. FORCE IS FORCE. AND FORCE IS VIOLENCE.

State sanctioned violence is 'according to the law".
Jemaah islamiyah violence is NOT according to the law.
But it is still the same USE OF VIOLENCE TO ENFORCE RELIGION.

This is what that Jemaah Islamiyah father would have taught his FIVE children.
That it is not wrong to use violence to enforce our religious beliefs. 
The government also uses violence to enforce their religious beliefs. 

(3 years jail, RM5000 fine, SIX strokes of the rotan for religious 'crimes')
 

So using FORCE AND VIOLENCE to enforce religious beliefs is NOT WRONG.

It is a CRIME because the JI is not sanctioned by law to use violence to enforce religion.

The gomen or pemerintah is legally sanctioned to use  violence to enforce religion.

Using violence to enforce religion is NOT WRONG. 

It is a CRIME only when you are not sanctioned by the law. 

Itu saja.

 

WHY IS THIS A BIG, BIG PROBLEM?

 

Because religion has little or no scientific evidence to prove itself. All religions. That is why we have the word "faith". Religion is simply "faith". Scientific evidence, scientific proofs, logic, common sense are not needed. All that is needed is faith.

 

Hence the religious people have said things like the following: 

 

 

 

One religion says their hero flew over the mountains.

Another says their hero walked on water.

One says their hero was born miraculously from a bear.

Yet another says their hero embarked on miraculous journeys.

One religion says their god is like this.

Another religion says their god is like that.

 

This is religion. 

All this runs on faith. 

Either you accept it or you dont accept it.

 

Unfortunately the problem starts with the "dont accept it" part. 

That is when the USE OF FORCE and VIOLENCE starts.

 

The gomen will say "You dont believe as we believe? We will physically throw you in jail". 

The Jemaah Islamiyah will say "You dont believe as we believe? We will BLOW YOU UP".

 

And why will this problem not go away? Because in each and every religion there will always be at least 10 dozen "extremists" who will tell the gomen  'I disagree with your understanding of religion. Your understanding is wrong.'

And then the 10 dozen extremists will also start disagreeing with each other. "You are wrong". The other fellow will reply "I am right. You are wrong".  And then the violence will start.

 

AGAIN WHY? Because no one has 100%, rock solid, scientific proof for their belief. It is just their faith. The other fellow will say 'That is your understanding. My understanding is different from you". And then the fighting will start. 

HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM? IT IS TOO SIMPLE.

 

The solution is really simple and it has already been successfully implemented in hundreds of countries around the world.

 

DO NOT CRIMINALISE RELIGIOUS BELIEF. 

This is the most important step.

 

Any law that seeks to criminalise religious belief must be abolished. 

You cannot throw a person in jail or punish him for his religious beliefs. 

 

WHY NOT?

 

Because you have no scientific proof for your own religious beliefs. 

It is just your belief versus someone else's belief. There are no scientific proofs.

Instead of criminalising religious belief Malaysia should allow any Muslim to believe as he deems fit. 

This is what Muslims discover when they migrate to Australia, Singapore, USA, Canada or to Europe. That their neighbour can be a Shia, a Sunni, a Sufi, a Salafi / Wahabi. No one cares. It is not a crime to belong to any Muslim sect or not belong to any sect in these countries.

That is why Muslims who migrate to Europe and the West find their lives so peaceful. No one will arrest them for their religious beliefs. Or throw stones at them. There is no or much less religious violence.

And the law in those Western countries protects the Muslims from violence or use of force against them by other Muslims on account of their religious beliefs. 

This is what we must teach our Muslim people here in Malaysia. Leave your neighbours alone. Especially your Muslim neighbours. It is legally not your business to worry about your Muslim neighbours faith. You just take care of yourself and your own faith. No violence, no force.

But it must begin with the government. When the government stops criminalising religious belief, when the government tells the people the law will not be used against you for your religious belief then it will make it more difficult for outfits like the JI to sell their 'I am holier than thou' ideology in Ulu Tiram.

People will say 'You have your ideas we have ours. You go your way and we will go our way. There is no need for violence or force'.

Muslims in Malaysia will get used to the reality that different groups of Muslims do have different ways of understanding religion.

ULU TIRAM ATTACK. JEMAAH ISLAMIYAH? WHY NOW? AFTER 30 YEARS? CROWS COMING HOME?

 

 

The following is from Channel News Asia here : https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malaysia-johor-police-officers-killed-attack-jemaah-islamiyah-4343051

 

attacker shot dead at scene - member of terror group Jemaah Islamiyah
7 people, including assailant’s family, arrested 
police track down over 20 suspected JI members in Johor

M'sia arrests 7 after attack on Johor police post by JI, suspect kills 2 cops
2 policemen killed, another injured in attack by masked assailant 
at Ulu Tiram police station, Johor on May 17, 2024

ULU TIRAM: police track down more than 20 terrorist Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) 
after attack on police station in Ulu Tiram in early hours of Friday (May 17).
attack by JI member 2.30am 
attacker killed in ensuing firefight
Ulu Tiram 20km from Johor Bahru

21-year-old male entered police post armed with parang
He attacked one police officer near station’s entrance, taking his pistol
firefight ensued at the car park area of station with police officers
resulted in death of another officer 
suspect also shot dead during this exchange
police searched suspect’s home and found he was JI member
suspect was prepared 
his bag padded with zinc (sheets) to use it as shield during firefight 

individual came to police post to get gun for his agenda, which we don't know yet 
Special Branch to identify all JI members in Johor to be called up for questioning
"They are JI members ... we suspect that (it is to obtain weapons)
more than 20 people linked to JI being tracked down for questioning
all 5 members of suspect’s family aged 19 to 62 have been arrested
suspect's father, aged 62, is a known member of JI

a couple (male 22 yrs, female 21 yrs) making police report at the time nabbed  
“not logical” for couple to be reporting molest which took place 2 years ago
the two might be involved in the attack as distractions for police
security stepped up at police stations, state’s palace, official residence of MB 

Jemaah Islamiyah linked to Al Qaeda, that carried out 9/11 attacks in New York in 2001 
JI responsible for 2002 Bali bombings which killed more than 200 people.
1990s JI's leader Abu Bakar Bashir set up madrasah Luqmanul Hakiem in Ulu Tiram
madrasah attended by Noordin Mohd Top, mastermind of 2009 Jakarta hotel bomb also another JI militant Mukhlas who was part of 2002 Bali bombings

 

My Comments :

Malaysia's No 1 expert on the Madrasah Luqmanul Hakiem and the Jemaah Islamiyah is none other than Deputy Inspector-General of Police Dato' Sri Ayob Khan bin Mydin Pitchay (picture).

 

 

The Madrasah Luqmanul Hakiem was established by Indonesian terrorist mentor Abu Bakar Bashir of the Jemaah Islamiyah and another Indonesian called Abdullah Sungkar. Abdullah Sungkar was closely identified with Al Qaeda.

The madrasah in Ulu Tiram was a rerun of the Pondok Ngruki which both Sungkar and Basyir had started in Indonesia in the 1980s. 

Some say Abdullah Sungkar was the founder of the Jemaah Islamiyah. Abdullah Sungkar died in 1999.

                 Above left Abdullah Sungkar, died 1999. Right is Abu Bakar Bashir, 86 yrs old.

 

Now here is the really strange part of this story:

Abu Bakar Bashir was imprisoned in Indonesia from 1978 to 1982.  Soon after his release, Bashir was convicted again; he was also linked to the bomb attack on the Buddhist temple in Borobudur in 1985 but fled to Malaysia. During his 13 years in exile in Malaysia (1985 to 1998??) Abu Bakar Bashir undertook religious teachings. The United States government alleged that during this period in Malaysia he became involved with Jemaah Islamiyah, a militant Islamist group. Bashir remained in exile until after Indonesian President Suharto's fall in 1998.

My question is WHY WAS ABU BAKAR BASYIR THE TERRORIST MENTOR FROM INDONESIA GIVEN A RED IC, PERMANENT RESIDENCE, TO STAY IN MALAYSIA FOR 13 YEARS (1985 to 1998??) AND RUN AN OBVIOUSLY MILITANT MADRASAH IN ULU TIRAM?

And now the Police are saying that there are still Jemaah Islamiyah members not just in Ulu Tiram but "throughout Johor" ?? 

Special Branch to identify all JI members in Johor to be called up for questioning
"They are JI members ... we suspect that (it is to obtain weapons)
more than 20 people linked to JI being tracked down for questioning

To obtain weapons? For what purpose?  

A friend from Johor just sent me the following:

• To be honest, most Non-Malays already knew what was going on in Madrassah Lukmannul Hakiem.
• In fact we all knew about Abu Bakar and Abdullah Sungkar and the 11 lecturers at that Madrassah
• We all know Skudai/Taman U, is the home of Hizbut Tahrir.
• When the JI detainee escaped from Singapore swimming across the straits, he headed straight to Skudai.
• We Non-Muslims know what is exactly going on.
• Johor was safer when Dato Ayob Khan was here (as CPO Johor).

It looks like the Jemaah Islamiyah crows are still flying around in Johor. 
They are still coming home to roost.  
Why do you cari pasal like this?

FRIDAY NOTES (17/5/2024) FROM THE QURAN : IMRAZ IKHBAL'S VIDEO "ISLAM AS PRACTISED IN MALAYSIA | Saturday, 4 May 2024"

 

I do listen to Imraz Ikhbal's messages. 
More Malays and Muslims should listen to Imraz Ikhbal. 

Here is a link to Imraz' video "ISLAM AS PRACTISED IN MALAYSIA" dated 4 May, 2024. 

 

https://youtu.be/o5ybPJWHzgI?si=bd8oAkCZadcDVjmK

I will not play his video here because Imraz says plenty of things, not all of which I dare to repeat in this blog. 

Not because what he says is wrong but the oppressive laws and system that we have in this country which curb freedom of speech can suddenly fall upon your head from out of nowhere. 

The point that Imraz Ikhbal raises in this video is that Islam does not force its beliefs on people. Indeed the Quran says 'there is no compulsion in religion'.

This is the very famous phrase in the Quran   لَآ إِكْرَاهَ فِى ٱلدِّينِ ۖ  or  'laa iqraaha fid deen' which means "let there be no compulsion in religion".   

But as I keep repeating again and again the Muslims do not read and understand what their Quran says. 

Dear Muslim reader, even if you have a PhD in Islamic studies do you know how many chapters or surah there are in the Quran? Yes I know you say that there are 30 juzu in the Quran. But how many chapters (surah) are there in the Quran? Many, many Muslims do not even know the answer to this simplest of questions. They do not even know how many chapters there are in their own Quran. (I am not going to give you the answer).

If you do not know the answer maybe you should stop passing judgement on other peoples' Islamic faith?

Dear Muslim reader, even if you have a PhD in Islamic studies, can you pick up an Arabic Quran (with no translations or tulisan Rumi) and turn the pages to find say Surah no 36? I will give you one week to find this Surah no. 36. If you do not know how to find it, maybe you should stop passing judgement on other peoples' Islamic faith?  

To make your life easier Surah 36 is the famous Surah Yaseen which many people read at funerals and at the graves over the dead bodies of their loved ones.

Here are FOUR verses (verses 60 to 64) from Surah Yaseen for your note :

36:60 Did I not command you, O  Children of Adam, not to follow Satan, for he is truly your sworn enemy,
36:61 but to worship Me ˹alone˺? This is the Straight Path
36:62 Yet he already misled great multitudes of you. Did you not have any sense?
36:63 This is the Hell you were warned of.
36:64 Burn in it Today for your disbelief.

So do remember these verses the next time you recite them over the dead bodies of your loved ones.

Back to Imraz Ikhbal I just want to share a few other verses from the Quran which may be useful in understanding this concept of  :

 لَآ إِكْرَاهَ فِى ٱلدِّينِ ۖ  or  'laa iqraaha fid deen' which means "let there be no compulsion in religion".  

Here is Surah 28:56  You surely cannot guide those whom you love ( إِنَّكَ لَا تَهْدِى مَنْ أَحْبَبْتَ˹) but it is Allah Who guides whoever He wills, and He knows best who are ˹fit to be˺ guided'.

The Messenger or Rasul cannot guide even those whom he loves (ahbabta).  
Only Allah swt can guide whomever He wills. 
Again this means there is no compulsion. 
You cannot force people to do this or that.

Surah 6:107  Had Allah willed, they would not have associated partners with Him. We have not appointed you as their keeper (HAFEEZ), nor are you their representative (WAKEEL) 

Again the Messenger is not a keeper or a guardian (HAFEEZ) over anyone. 
Neither is the Messenger a representative or advocate (WAKEEL) on behalf of anyone. 
( وَمَا جَعَلْنَـٰكَ عَلَيْهِمْ حَفِيظًۭا ۖ وَمَآ أَنتَ عَلَيْهِم بِوَكِيلٍۢ  )

 

Again meaning there is no compulsion in religion. 
Whoever wants to be guided has to decide for himself. 
You cannot force or compel anyone into believing as you do.

And here is another favorite of mine :

Surah 50:45   نَّحْنُ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا يَقُولُونَ ۖ وَمَآ أَنتَ عَلَيْهِم بِجَبَّارٍۢ ۖ فَذَكِّرْ بِٱلْقُرْءَانِ مَن يَخَافُ وَعِيدِ  

'We know best what they say. And you are not ˹there˺ to compel them (to believe)˺. So remind with the Quran, those who fear My warning'.

وَمَآ أَنتَ عَلَيْهِم بِجَبَّارٍۢ   or  'wa maa anta alayhim bi JABBARIN' which means 'And you are not ˹there˺ to compel them'.

JABBAR means the boss man, the big guy, the guy with the big stick. 
JABBARIN refers to forcing people, to compel people, to make people do this or that.  

It also means arrogant or sombong.

So the Rasul or Messenger was not sent to the human race to force them to do this or that.  The Rasul or Messenger never forced anyone into doing anything.  He was not a JABBARIN.

And to close, here is another favorite :

Surah 13:40   فَإِنَّمَا عَلَيْكَ ٱلْبَلَـٰغُ وَعَلَيْنَا ٱلْحِسَابُ   "...your duty is only to deliver ˹the message˺. The Judgment is for Us".

I love the Arabic phrase above (in green) : "alayka balaghun wa alayna hisabun".

Which means :
alayka - upon you
balaghun - to deliver / to convey
wa alayna - and upon us
hisabun - the reckoning / the judgement.

So the hisabun (its the same word as hisab or "count" in Malay)  or taking account of people, or the reckoning over people or the judgement over people is not the job of the Messenger. That is the job of Allah swt.

The job of the Messenger is 'BALAGHUN' or the delivery of the message. 
BALAGHUN comes from BALIGHA which means to convey, to deliver. 
So Allah swt is clearly telling the Messenger - your job is to convey, my job is the judgement. 

 

And please, please bear in mind that I am referring the verses in the Quran. 
There are no verses in the Quran where these roles are reversed. 
Nowhere does the Quran say to the Messenger 'alayka hisabun'. 
That just does not happen.
There is no compulsion. 

The problem begins when mere mortals feel that they can compel people to believe this and that, to do this and that.  That is the problem.

Friday Lite : Somewhere else in the world its Friday too.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/reel/954810616043766?fs=e&s=7MtrtK&mibextid=J7ZoRX

Is it just inmates at the local mental asylum (not in this country ok) having their morning exercise? They certainly look like it.